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May. 6th, 2011

09:57 pm - Damn.

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Seriously, what the hell, UK. It was a historic chance. :/

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From:garrwolfdog
Date:May 7th, 2011 12:45 am (UTC)
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I think the problem is that many people feel that all the choices are equally bad. So why bother changing things.
If the coalition government in power at the moment was more than a farce then the populous might be more accepting of a system that brought more diversity to the political process.

That and the "vote yes" campaign largely failed to get their message across clearly.

Give it another 10 or 20 years for the old guard to die off, the fiasco of a champaign to be forgotten and once people have internalized similar voting systems from their reality TV shows, and they'll probably be more welcoming of such things.

However, the new system of voting isn't exactly "new" and has not proven as popular in the past.
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From:balinares
Date:May 7th, 2011 09:24 am (UTC)
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> That and the "vote yes" campaign largely failed to get their message across clearly.

Ah, that would certainly not help. :/ I found the "let's AV a beer" thing pretty clever, but then, it's just one website in one corner of the Internet, isn't it.

And I know AV isn't perfect. Arrow's theorem implies that no voting system is. FPTP (and two-round runoff as we have here) are still among the worst. :/
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From:ruadh
Date:May 7th, 2011 11:25 am (UTC)
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Well. I wanted to give AV a fair shake.

Other people didn't.

The only real change that I saw it having, was reducing the urges of people to indulge in 'tactical voting' in an attempt to prevent the party they didn't like getting in, rather than voting for who they wanted in power. However, that would require people to be smart and understand how things worked.

People, as a rule, are not smart and hate change.
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From:balinares
Date:May 7th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
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> People, as a rule, are not smart and hate change.

Aye. But I was still hoping it would pass, so other nations could take a hint. UK has historically been good with that kind of stuff, with Habeas Corpus and John Locke and shit. Here, the hugely unpopular and generally catastrophic Sarkozy stands a non-negligible chance of being reelected owing to the fuckupery of two-round runoff voting, and this would have been a good time to get people talking about the benefits of other voting systems. :/
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